Fat Fingers is coming to downtown Silver Spring. There was only one other Fat Fingers in America, in Saugus, Massachusetts, as far I as can find out. A 1950s-style restaurant with dancing servers, pizza, burgers, hot dogs and ice cream sundaes, the Saugus location was owned by a Massachusetts local, and resembled a love child of Arnold's Drive-In and Johnny Rockets.
So how does Silver Spring end up getting a Fat Fingers? The logo is very similar to the one the Saugus location used, but no other details are available as of this writing, so stay tuned for updates as I get more information. This space was previously home to the short-lived Paisano's Pizza.
I just searched "Fat Fingers" and Google gave me photos of literal fat fingers!
ReplyDelete"As far as I can find out"???? Do you have any source for your claim? Is there a building permit sign in the window? Where did you see the logo? Anything at all or do we just have to to take your word for it?
ReplyDelete"A 1950s-style restaurant with dancing servers, pizza, burgers, hot dogs and ice cream sundaes, the Saugus location was owned by a Massachusetts local, and resembled a love child of Arnold's Drive-In and Johnny Rockets."
ReplyDeleteIs this your personal experience after having visited their sole restaurant in Saugus, Massachusetts or is it just unlabeled sponsored content?
How would an entity with no contact information pay me for "sponsored content," old sport? I would have asked them for the menu, if that were the case.
DeleteSo where did "a 1950s-style restaurant with dancing servers, pizza, burgers, hot dogs and ice cream sundaes, the Saugus location was owned by a Massachusetts local, and resembled a love child of Arnold's Drive-In and Johnny Rockets" come from, then?
DeleteRobert you old sport, do you have any sponsored content? If so, where can it be found?
DeleteLooks like their Massachusetts restaurant was open for just three years, from 2012 to 2015.
ReplyDelete2:27: That would be a good, long run in moribund Montgomery County, where windows are plastered with "Going out of business!!" signs countywide.
DeleteThat's an odd claim considering you run a blog that shows the exact opposite. The amount of leased retail in downtown Silver Spring has increased every year for nearly two decades now.
Delete2:52: Wrong. We've had a net loss in retail jobs since 2000, and we had the lowest number of new business starts this decade of any County in the region.
DeleteB O O M
You've been using the same line since the recession. No one with eyes is dumb enough to believe you, Dyer.
Delete8:46: Those numbers are directly from federal government statistics, old sport. Among those who believe me are the Washington Post, former Hans Riemer chief-of-staff Adam Pagnucco, and the Sage Policy Group, to name a few.
DeleteDavid Blair almost won on a Robert Dyer platform.
Damn, son, you just got destroyed by facts.
The statistic that Dyer keeps citing is from the Maryland Retailers Association, for the period from 2000 an undetermined year (which is sometime before 2016) to which includes the Great Recession.
DeleteHowever Fairfax County lost more retail jobs in the one year between July 2017 and July 2018, in a time of prosperity, than Montgomery County did for that 15-year period.
Northern Virginia
Employment Change by Sector
July 2017-July 2018
Retail Trade: DOWN 1,900 jobs
https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/budget/sites/budget/files/assets/indicators/2018/10.pdf
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"David Blair almost won on a Robert Dyer platform."
David Blair didn't run "on a Robert Dyer platform", however Robert Dyer who actually did run on a Robert Dyer platform, suffered three humiliating losses in a row.
9:47: False. Fake stats. You don't understand that NET requires you to also add back the jobs CREATED in Fairfax during that same period. Fairfax destroys MoCo in job creation every year, so it's quite clear they did NOT have a NET loss. Montgomery County, however, did suffer a NET LOSS in retail jobs this century.
DeleteDavid Blair absolutely ran on a Robert Dyer platform. His backers are avid readers of my websites, and the economic development issues he spoke of were identical to mine.
B O O M
Saith Dyer: "False. Fake stats."
DeleteThe statistic for Fairfax County comes straight from the Fairfax County government.
Saith Dyer: You don't understand that NET requires you to also add back the jobs CREATED in Fairfax during that same period. Fairfax destroys MoCo in job creation every year, so it's quite clear they did NOT have a NET loss. Montgomery County, however, did suffer a NET LOSS in retail jobs this century."
It's the same statistic for both jurisdictions - total number of jobs created in the retail sector, less total number of jobs lost in the retail sector, equals net gain or loss of jobs in the retail sector. For both jurisdictions, there was a net loss of jobs in the retail sector for the time periods given. Why are you trying to claim otherwise?
Fairfax County may have created jobs in other sectors, just as Montgomery County did, but they definitely lost jobs in the retail sector. And how those other sectors are irrelevant to how the retail sector did.
"Down" is not "net." You have to add the number of jobs created to the equation to get the net number.
Delete7:02: Nope. MoCo wasn't the one that published the net stats - the numbers were too embarrassing for them to do so. It was the Maryland Retailers Association that exposed the net loss of retail jobs since 2000.
DeleteJust the amount of mall floor space alone in Fairfax swamps the amount being leased in MoCo today. There's no way they had a net loss of retail jobs in Fairfax, old sport.
So why would Fairfax County lie and say that they had a net loss of retail jobs between July 2017 and July 2018?
DeleteMall space in Fairfax County:
DeleteFair Oaks - Sears CLOSED
Galleria at Tysons II - Macy's CLOSED
Mall space in City of Alexandria:
Landmark Mall - entire mall except for Sears - CLOSED
Mall space in Arlington County:
Ballston Common - entire mall being redeveloped. Most has been demolished already.
Mall space in Loudoun County:
Dulles Town Center - Nordstrom's CLOSED
5:33: They didn't say they had a net loss of retail jobs, old sport.
Delete7:31: Moving the goalposts again, Saul? Total mall square footage in Fairfax County vs. Montgomery County was the issue, not random business closures.
You didn't even list all of the malls in Fairfax County!
DeleteChicken fingers?
ReplyDeleteYou should wait more than just a few seconds after Dyer posts under his own name. Just sayin'.
Delete#Busted
2:48pm #Scooped
DeleteJust an FYI for anyone who cares. Yes, there is a sign indicating that the restaurant is to be called Fat Fingers. But, there was another sign there before it was replaced with the Fat Fingers sign. It said they were hiring for a fast-casual bistro.
ReplyDeleteSo, my guess is that this place has nothing to do at all with a far away restaurant that's already closed and, more probable, it is more likely to resemble something like La Madeline. At least, one could hope.
10:06: Why would they use the Fat Fingers logo, then? No reason to do so if it was going to be a bistro.
DeleteIt's not the same logo as the Massachusetts restaurant.
DeleteIt absolutely is the same logo - all they did was stack the words instead of one line. Same "fat fingers" graphic, as well.
Delete#scooped
DeleteWell, this story was quickly plagiarized elsewhere...lol
ReplyDeleteI did some Google searching of "Fat Fingers" and could not locate a website for them, but did notice numerous closure notices which doesn't bode well for them. Also, happened to see the entrepreneurs on "Shark Tank (5/12/19) if this is the same concept. What gives with them?
ReplyDeleteWell, this sentence certainly weren't "plagiarized":
ReplyDelete"Fat Fingers, a concept from the owners of Big Greek Cafe"
Robert can you please provide a list of every mall in the DMV and show which ones are moribund and which are thriving? That would be great publicity for you and help prove your point.
ReplyDeleteIt might even help you attract more lucrative ad space.